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2009-08-17T02:41:00.001-07:00

Despite the previous arguments, Admin@BobsBlitz.com (Bob Mantz, Jr.) has many reasons to think otherwise:
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In addition to this, kzfone states:
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Joe D thinks that the problem is:
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Tony Arnoldine gives a bit of an idea about it:
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Joe D thinks that the problem is:
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Thinking that's no t all, JamesK adds:
also a little dicey at times, precisely because of the uncomfortable intimacy of reporters with their subjects and the mobility of the same people between the roles of the reporter and of the story being covered.

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Ben Nicholson-Smith shows how it is done:
"The comparison I had in mind was to say, Theo Epstein. A GM who, without the benefit of high draft picks,and despite being able to simply "buy" players, has drafted the likes of Kevin Youklis, Dustin Pedroia, Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, Justin Masterson, Jacoby Ellsbury, etc." Lester was drafter by interim GM Mike Port and Youkilis was drafted in the dark days of Dan Duquette. But Papelbon was drafted by Theo. Posted by: start_wearing_purple | July 31, 2009 at 05:52 PM

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Joe D has another idea:
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JamesK is not really sure about that:
Can someone explain WHY it was unethical? I keep reading that Rubin was unethical or that there was a conflict of interest. I would be interested to read why. If Rubin wanted to transition to a front office position, how else would he go about doing it? And why the heck would he ask Jeff Wilpon for advice about moving up in the newspaper industry? That just doesn t make sense. by SQUAD on Jul 28, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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In addition to this, Bats states:
Third - Jeff Wilpon apology - indicates guilty conscious.I am a Bronx Bombers fan, I love Steinbrenner - the lines are clear, the chain of command is clear, if you violate the lines you are fired - if you disobey the chain of command you are fired.

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Toby Hyde considers that:
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However, kzfone thinks differently:
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kzfone also takes into account the following fact:
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In addition to this, Hojo's Mojo states:
D.C. says: July 27, 2009 at 5:33 pm Minaya is chickenshit. Reply tlagee says: July 27, 2009 at 5:37 pm

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Furthermore, Matthew Cerrone claims:
thedude says: July 31, 2009 at 11:19 pm By the way, you know who s a Type A they could have gotten draft picks for? Oliver Perez. Glad we chose 3 years of that clown over 2 picks

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Toby Hyde brings some great news:
Good for him. But it shows that these beat writers are NOT impartial observers but have their own agenda. Nothing wrong with that.. Just admit it.

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However, Matthew Cerrone thinks differently:
theperfectgame says: July 28, 2009 at 8:09 am It s kind of like how when Anna Nicole Smith died, there were 1,000 stories and reports on it. And then 10,000 more afterward complaining about the ridiculous amount of coverage it was getting. If you re actually sick of thinking, writing, and talking about this soap opera, then stop doing it. If you want to focus on the on-field aspects of the Mets, then by all means, please (seriously, please), exercise your creative control and do it.

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Tony Arnoldine sees it this way:
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JamesK explains:
Just that people are getting in a lather over the downfall of journalism in recent times When I m pretty sure it s always been just as dirty as everything else. I think it s human nature. Just for one example, and I can t prove it obviously, but I m pretty sure before the internet there was a hell of a lot more plagiarizing and making up sources, etc going on. Hey, THESE might be the halcyon days of journalistic ethics! by SupT on Jul 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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IM Forme is absolutely sure that:

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Meanwhile, JamesK came up with this idea:
Not a conflict of interest if ... If Rubin asked merely in general terms how to break into the business, then I don t see a conflict of interest. Nor do I see one even if he asked if it were possible to work one day in the Mets front office.

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Having that in mind, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) wonders:
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2009-08-14T13:32:00.001-07:00

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) is not really sure about that:
July 29, 2009 6:26:00 PM EDT Anonymous said... Did Omar provide proof yet that Rubin "LOBBIED FOR A JOB". That is not the same thing as asking for career advice, which was what Wilpon said Rubin did(and thus backing up what Rubin said).

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Michael Avitabile notices:
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Before going any further, DyHrdMET wants to get this straight:
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IM Forme intervenes and adds:
This seems less like levity and more like petty cruelty. Further, I fail to make the connection with Francoeur is said to have brought the team when he was traded from the incest capital of the world to New York. Bashing a child's toy with a bat may be big fun in Atlanta, so that could be the connection, but otherwise I don't see it.

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Toby Hyde also takes into account the following fact:

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But JamesK has a different opinion:
I agree but If you go back and look at a lot of the stories Rubin turned in on Tony B. he would always slip in adjectives that made it seem as if Tony B. was maniacal. These were not direct quotes from sources, but words he was choosing to use. Maybe that s the vibe he got from his sources, but that s why you have to be careful not to be too sensational when writing, it can come back to haunt you. But, the Mets did fire him, so there really had to be something there, it wasn t some huge exaggeration, obviously. by David G on Jul 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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But JamesK says that's not all:
Kind of agree, Kind of disagree Joe It is worthwhile to raise the point that The Mets is a corporate entity that includes both baseball and journalistic operations. By definition that blurs whatever line separates them. I can definitely see that, though I would caveat it by saying that, if anything, the line between journalism and sports is more distinct now than it ever has been precisely

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Hojo's Mojo does a quick recap:
peter rock says: July 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm how can omar try to spin that press conference in saying adam rubin was trying to take bernazards job??thats disgraceful!!!! when is this loser going to be fired ??wake up fred and jeff omar is a terrible gm Reply

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For example, Tony Arnoldine considers:
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2009-08-13T13:32:00.001-07:00

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kzfone brings more details:
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Matthew Cerrone tells the real story:
If we were 2 or 3 out of the Wild Card, I could see being more upset. But are we really contenders? We just lost 2 in a row. If SF beats Philly tonight, we re out 7 1/2. If feels like so many people are hypocrites. At the deadline in 04 when they traded Kazmir and Wigginton for Kris Benson, they were 6 out of the Wild Card and 49-54. They re currently 7 out and 49-53. It s nearly an identical situation (a dominating division club too). Should have we really been contenders in 04? No. Should we buy now? No.

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But Bats says that's not all:
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Neil Keefe is not really sure about that:
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For example, JamesK considers:
Just because he has been critical doesn't mean there is no bias by James Kannengieser on Jul 28, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs Plus maybe he is critical because he didn t get a job. I am not saying that is Rubin s motivation, just pointing out how it could be a conflict of interest or could bias his reporting. by blains2000 on Jul 28, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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Matthew Cerrone remembers that:
JefJarrett says: July 27, 2009 at 9:33 am Well, not that I think he will help out too much by being here - but I suppose it s better to realize you want to keep him before you cut him and have someone else pick him up. He certainly isn t as bad as hes pitched ..so hopefuly he gets his act together.

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In addition to this, Matthew Cerrone states:
Also, maybe I m in the minority here but it doesn t seem to me like Rubin crossed some line. Based on what Rubin said, and what was essentially corroborated by Wilpon and Minaya later, Rubin never lobbied for a job in the organization. Rather, he has always been curious about getting involved in either the sports network side or baseball organizational side of the business and he has spoken to people he has encountered over many years from many organizations, including Wilpon and Minaya, for info. That makes perfect sense to me. I imagine being a beat reporter, you form relationships with people you deal with regularly and that seems completely natural that over the months and years that you cover a team, that the conversation veers to all sorts of topics of interest. It also appears that he was cognizant of not crossing a line which is why he didn t take Wilpon up on his offer.

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For example, JamesK considers:
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Matthew Cerrone imagines that:
Lorenzo23 says: July 27, 2009 at 5:40 pm Yea lets blame Jay because Omar is unqualified. That makes a lot of sense.

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Furthermore, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) claims:
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Joe D scans the other's answers and reply:
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JamesK says it all comes down to this:
Minaya and Wilpon both offer contradictory accounts of the nature of Rubins query I don t think you can take much of it at face value. Although Wipon s, GK&R s and Rubin s account seem much closer. Rubin wasn t asking for a job. He was asking How does one get a job doing that . It was more exploratory and seems to fit within the bounds of his job. I don t think there is a conflict of interest here. If anything, Minaya should have woken up this moring to a pink slip from Wilpon for such a horrific display. by Chickendirt on Jul 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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While it may be true, Media Decoder thinks:
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Tony Arnoldine brings a word of caution:
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Still being unsure, Neil Keefe asks:
Wilpon also made it clear that the Mets are not going to remove Minaya from his position as the club s general manager.

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As a result of that, Tony Arnoldine belives:
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2009-08-13T13:32:00.000-07:00

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Matthew Cerrone sees it this way:
Personally I m done with Omar because after 5-years I still don t know what his vision is for this team. But I don t blame him for being defensive about the state of his farm system when you actually examine why we are where we are and what kind of prospects do we have going forward rather than just sitting there and babbling about why we can t have the farm systems the Red Sox or Dodgers have.

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In contrast, Ben Nicholson-Smith replies:
5) Locking up Reyes and Wright. Not a very difficult decision.So as we can see, the moves trotted out in defense of Omar s tenure were not particularly shrewd, difficult, or non-obvious. Often times he simply benefited from situational luck, which is nice, but does not make you a good GM.

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Andrew Vazzano says it all comes down to this:
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As a result of that, Media Decoder belives:
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kzfone objects:
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Matthew Cerrone considers that:
I like Adam Rubin based on what he does as a beat writer and team reporter in general, but the effort of the story on Bernazard was a little shallow, including his lame follow up story which included the two primary sources a released been nothing prospect and an independent league clubhouse manager.

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Still being unsure, Michael Avitabile asks:
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Matthew Cerrone tells the real story:
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Greg Pomes scans the other's answers and reply:
alan says: July 28, 2009 at 10:38 am Why does it matter if Adam Rubin is insulted about Omar Minaya spilling the beans that he was looking for a job within the organization. Beat writers seem to have no problem in blasting players, managers or front office people without looking at all sides of any particular problem. I am sick and tired of the medias idea that they have carte blanche to say anything without repercussion. They hammered the Mets for making the trade for Jeff Francouer and now they have elevated him to be the savior. Fact is that Jeff had some problems in Atlanta, and a change of scenery for him has been good. He is an energetic player on a team that has suffered through an injury plagued season and has gotten off to a good start. Go back to the first 60 days of 2007 and you will see that newly acquired Ryan Church was CARRYING this team by himself and at the top of the league leaders in hitting stats until he w as sidelined. Look at how the media treated Ryan since then! A bunch of egotistical, backstabbing weasels who are able to lead those who can t think for themselves. The media gets far too many considerations to do their jobs professionally and all too often are delivering tabloid like stories reminiscent of the Hollywood Rags that still sit atop the newsstands.

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Matthew Cerrone sees it this way:
Nate W. says: July 27, 2009 at 10:59 am But Livan gives up 3 runs every first inning, I don t see how he can be a reliever. He takes a long time to warm up as it is. And he should try throwing an extra 25 pitches to simulate his first inning in the pen I d say Livan gets to stay a starter until he proves he isn t one of the best 5 they have, at which point he is let go. He makes less than Redding, keep in mind.

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2009-08-12T06:02:00.001-07:00

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As a result of that, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) belives:
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Matthew Cerrone tells the real story:
Maybe Omar did it on purpose, figuring he was done, and he wanted to get a head start with Tony on his 3 year paid vacation?

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) might have an idea about it:
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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) remembers that:
This is blatantly inaccurate, and has been quoted differently in every other paper this morning. The NY Post correctly quotes Omar as saying : "Adam, you gotta understand this, Adam, for the past couple of years, has lobbied for a player development position," Minaya said.

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For example, JamesK considers:
Comments Display: Expanded Collapsed Thank You I said this yesterday in the game thread. Its not that I dont like Adam Rubin, but what he did was unethical. I would assume he is downplaying it now, his job is at stake, as I am sure the Ombudsman at The Daily News is now launching his own investigation. And if his defense is that everyone in the sports journalism world does it, then it is patently obvious that the majority of the sports journalism world is an open sewer of talentless hacks trying to break into the game. Which is a shame because Rubin did a great job in breaking this story. But now I have to question his motives. by aparkermarshall on Jul 28, 2009 7:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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For example, JamesK considers:
Jeff Wilpon has just come out in the last hour or so to personally apologize to Rubin. He said Omar had made a mistake and embarrassed the organization and Omar will be calling Rubin personally to apologize himself. Wilpon said that what Rubin did was not improper and that he is asked similar questions by others all the time. So I think that says it all about Rubin s actions in the past regarding his career. There was nothing improper there.

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Matthew Cerrone is absolutely sure that:
Update, 4:15 pm: During today s press conference to announce the firing of Tony Bernazard, Mets GM Omar Minaya was clear to point out that Adam Rubin of the Daily News, who wrote the initial reports about Bernazard, had been lobbying the team for a job in the team s player development department.

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Similarly, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) adds:
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While it may be true, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) thinks:
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Robert Z can't forget that:
This does not excuse Omar or the Wilpons for allowing Bernazard to act in an unprofessional way this long, and for the neglect of the farm system. However, once a franchise shows that they are under the media or fan s whim, it s over.

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noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) points out another thing aside from that:
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Matthew Cerrone objects:
stickguy says: July 27, 2009 at 6:19 pm GMs would deal with Osama Bin laden if they thought they were getting the better end of the deal. Heck, they are probably salivating to get Omar on the phone to try and rob him blind while he is distracted (well, more than usual). Ass uming Jeffy will let him make a deal at this point! deloid says: July 27, 2009 at 7:03 pm Correct. If I m a GM and I see him as gone in a few days I don t waste my time and energy making a deal that can t happen. It s not what I think you suggest, that the other GMs will be offended by his behavior. This is a simple business based reality.

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Matthew Cerrone has another idea:
Think of the outcry if the financial reporter assigned to Lehman bros., just before the crash, was asking the CEO hwo to get a job on wall street? you think his impartiality might be a tad compromised?

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Furthermore, JamesK claims:
This. by TheLetter2 on Jul 28, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs It's only unethical if he used his position to get someone fired, which he didn t. It doesn t seem that he fabricated anything, he reported what happened as he is supposed to. There is nothing wrong with inquiring about another job, regardless of what your position is. If you can point to an example to where it compromised is journalistic standards, the yes he was wrong. Rubin did nothing wrong or unethical and this is being blown out proportion. "We must win and we must know how to win rather than win because we have statistical people." by Evan_S on Jul 28, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) also takes into account the following fact:
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JamesK thinks that the problem is:
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Hojo's Mojo also takes into account the following fact:
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In addition to this, JamesK states:
No problem. That s the tricky thing with ethics; they re not clearly codified anywhere. The rules can change from newsroom to newsroom. I think the commenters below make an excellent point sports journalism in general is in bed with the entities it covers, and that makes for awfully murky situations. When something like this happens, everyone can feel like the victim, and they may all have a valid point. by TheLetter2 on Jul 28, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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Matthew Cerrone notices:
In a post to Twitter, Can t Stop the Bleeding writes: Here s a list of things the Wilpons and Minaya don t understand : 1) public relations, 2) journalism, 3) ponzi schemes, 4) baseball.

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Robert Z scans the other's answers and reply:
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Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
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JamesK does a quick recap:
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Matthew Cerrone remembers that:
ctmetsfan17 says: July 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm Way to distract from a team coming home after two good wins. This is awful media management. Adam Rubin should have asked the Mets to be their new PR guy. Omar/Wilpon go after Rubin for outing Tony B . paging Dick Cheney. This is garbage. The Wilpon s should buy the Nationals if they want to act think this. I hope the Daily News/Rubin sue the Mets. If Jeff Wilpon is behind this Omar should resign so he can get a new job in the future. If Omar is behind it, he should be fired.

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In contrast, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) replies:
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Still not being convinced, Matthew Cerrone replies:
Lorenzo23 says: July 27, 2009 at 10:22 am Sorry wrong Rubin.. Why are we letting Lugo, under contract with the Red Sox, work out at our complex???? That makes no sense

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Before going any further, Matthew Artus wants to get this straight:
If you want to understand what losing Delgado and Beltran did to the Mets' chances, look no further than the Slugging Percentage. No one delivers any extra-base hits, let alone home runs. That means the Mets ars stuck grinding out runs in a station-to-station offense, and that's without the one player ideally suited for that worst-case scenario . Was it fixable? Maybe in June, but it would've taken an awful lot of creativity on Omar Minaya's part to find it.

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In other words, Matthew Cerrone puts it this way:
I want to truly believe that Omar is smarter than that and that this was a planned out, well calibrated move that as Matt stipulates above, sends a clear message to the other media members that are allowed to roam free amongst the Mets - if you expect us to keep things on the down low, you need to keep some things on the down low too. The Mets are clearly pissed about the story being made into a whole big thing by Rubin (who, by the way, if you ve read the article, absolutely slams the entire organization). They had something that they could use against him and did. Rubin may be shocked and angry, but I think the message is clear.

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Hojo's Mojo remembers that:
The NY Post also uncovered some other disturbing news when they reported on a verbalÂ altercation between Bernazard and Mets closer Frankie Rodriguez that almost came to blows had it not been broken up.

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While it may be true, JamesK thinks:
by TheLetter2 on Jul 28, 2009 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs Thank you for the perspective The laws of journalism constitute a grey area so I appreciate some feedback from someone who is trained in the field (I m assuming you are, based on your opening line). by James Kannengieser on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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Robert Z gives a bit of an idea about it:
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For this purpose, JamesK suggests:
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin by dcrockett17 on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) brings some great news:
July 28, 2009 8:39:00 AM EDT Anonymous said... You re missing the point, Dave. Doesn t matter if the or a job was said. Bottom line is Omar was royally pissed that he felt pressured to fire a friend and went after the messenger. His mindset was if Rubin didn t bring the stories to light, he would not have had to do that - and he wanted him to pay for that. His anger got the best of him at that press conference.

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But dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) has a different opinion:
July 28, 2009 8:35:00 AM EDT Dave Singer said... Steve, I have mixed opinions....as I stated yesterday, Rubin s reporting was spot on....and that should remain his focus. His piece this morning was absolutely slanted in his favor---he is equivocating on the fact that he made job inquiries, and he misquoted Omar vice using the actual words Omar said. Omar said Rubin inquired about a job....Rubin keeps saying Omar s comments were based on his belief that Rubin wanted Bernazard s job. Omar never said that though. Omar botched the press conference--true x 100. I also think Rubin is playing fast and loose with his interpretation of the truth.

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JamesK intervenes and adds:
It's a bit unfair Objectivity is crucial to the health of journalism but calling Rubin s integrity into question over his tactful, general inquiries about a field is extreme, unrealistic, and unfair.

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Before going any further, Matthew Artus wants to get this straight:
Second, the Mets rank 14th in Slugging Percentage at .419, which is also the current league average. You'd expect that with the lack of home runs, but it also reflects ranking 16th in doubles (83, 4 below league average) and 2nd in triples (15, 6 above league average). It's fine if the Mets aren't leading the league in dingers, but they're hardly a solid example of a well-rounded team.The BAPIP for the Mets normalized a bit, as it now resides at .304. That may or may not be affected by a dip in their line drive rate, down to 19.3% (which is still decent by MLB standards).

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) is absolutely sure that:
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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) shows how it is done:
Rubin s stories had been out for days and weeks. If Omar felt they were written by a reporter with a conflict of interest, he should have gone to the editors at the Daily News and complained. Instead, he uses a news conference to make unfounded accusations against Rubin. Omar will pay with his job. If not this year, I think by the end of next season. It s just one more mark against him. And it s a huge mark.

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Despite the previous arguments, JamesK has many reasons to think otherwise:
This is a new world and the rules have been changed. There nothing wrong with a beat writer saying, So, how does somebody get a job in this place?

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Having that in mind, JamesK wonders:
It s probably true that career-advice conversations like the Rubin-Wilpon exchanges are all too common in sports journalism and this is probably one reason why we re not seeing much surprise from the other sportswriters covering this story (apart from Wallace Matthews, who shockingly came out on the exact right side of this issue by remembering that Rubin s position is a bit dubious even while vilifying Omar). And if we take the Buffett comparison to heart, maybe it indicates not that Rubin is on firm ground but that business journalism is

Brandon Marshall

Still not being convinced, JamesK replies:
If that "viewpoint" is true, then a lot of people are going to be investigated and fired. by MetsGod on Jul 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs Good Alot of them are terrible. by aparkermarshall on Jul 28, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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JamesK scans the other's answers and reply:
It is completely possible to do this without sacrificing credibility as long as the entrepenuerial journalist does not exhibit his goals in his writing. Had Rubin done what Minaya implied and written articles about Bernazard with the intention of taking his job, that would have been wrong. That s not what happened, though.

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Matthew Cerrone might have an idea about it:
The bottom line is, too, they fired Tony Bernazard because he did the things I said he did For them to change the story like this, personally it devastates me. This is my livelihood. Look, I have tremendous relationships with most of the people in uniform. I guarantee you if I walk in to the clubhouse right now I ll have more pats on the back, unless people are just scared to do that because it s their bosses. I could assure you they just made my job impossible to do in the short-term.

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But Hojo's Mojo says that's not all:
Essentially what happened today was that Minaya set up a press conference to begin to save face for the organization, but in the process ripped that new face off by calling out Rubin.

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Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
This is just the latest embarrassing development in a shameful season for the New York Metropolitans. To make matters worse, Omar Minaya got into it with Adam Rubin of

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Matthew Cerrone intervenes and adds:
VCarver says: July 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm Any shred of respect I had left for Omar went out the window today. I don t care if Rubin had lobbied Omar for a job or not. This was not the venue to bring it up.

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In addition to this, Matthew Cerrone states:
VCarver says: July 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm Any shred of respect I had left for Omar went out the window today. I don t care if Rubin had lobbied Omar for a job or not. This was not the venue to bring it up.

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) intervenes and adds:
13 comments: Anonymous said... Rubin is really trying to have it both ways. He wants a job, he wants to say whatever he wants, and he wants everyone to look at him as the victim. He needs to take ownership of what he did and didn t say and do.

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Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
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Matthew Cerrone thinks about it:
pcmetsfan07 says: July 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm Right, but there is no reason to publically kill Rubin. This should have been taken care of in private. Minaya is gone

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Hojo's Mojo also takes into account the following fact:
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In contrast, Matth ew Cerrone replies:
In the end, Buster Olney of ESPN.com writes: He will not survive this, and this has nothing to do with whether what he said was accurate or inaccurate. He won t survive because Minaya now has become a public liability, a target of criticism, and if there is a defining characteristic of the Mets organization, it s a devotion to the whims of public opinion. Within seconds after Minaya s press conference ended, talk radio in New York erupted with criticism of the general manager for how he handled the situation. And that s just the quick response. This will only worsen in the hours and days ahead, as the blogs and columns of reaction are posted and the Mets fall out of contention.

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JamesK also takes into account the following fact:
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Matthew Cerrone explains:
besides, lost in all the noise, what Rubindid (not even the way Omar implied it, but what Rubin admitted to) is a firable offense.

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Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
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Hojo's Mojo comes with the facts:
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noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) brings some great news:
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Still being unsure, JamesK asks:
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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) considers that:
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Similarly, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) adds:
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JamesK explains:
It's not a justification of any sort My point is that there are no victims here story aside from the folks on the receiving ends of Bernazard s rants.

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Matthew Artus explains:
But that second point... the Slugging Percentage. Oy. The Mets now post a .386 Slugging Percentage, good for 26th in Majors. Since May 29th, the Mets generated a .357 SLG, which is just downright frightening.

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noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) has another idea:
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Hojo's Mojo is rather skeptical:
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JamesK notices:
If there were anything untrue about what Rubin reported, then it would be right to worry. But he simply reported the facts, obviously unskewed by possible career motives. Minaya s an idiot to suggest that Rubin reported negatively on Bernazard because he wanted his job. No one is so deluded to think his first job in baseball will be as a director of player development.

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Similarly, Matthew Cerrone adds:
Xavier22 says: July 27, 2009 at 10:15 am It will be interesting to see what they do, given that Jerry said each pitcher has one more chance before changes will be made. Nieve made that decision easy, and you have to figure Livan will revert to form within the next start or two. If Figuerroa is still tearing it up in AAA, will they allow Jerry to make good on his promise and bump Livan to the pen (where he would probably be a more effective mop up guy than Redding)? At that point in the season, Redding would be owed $750K or so.

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Before going any further, Matthew Cerrone wants to get this straight:
Rubin will also be a guest on SNY s Daily News Live at 5:00 pm. i hope omar had Jeff Wilpon s blessing for calling rubin out by name, because if not, and omar did this on his own, and just caused more heat, he better look out

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Still not being convinced, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) replies:
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Matthew Cerrone objects:
64 Responses to Crazy: Minaya calls out Adam Rubin of Daily News Newer Comments » Patrick says: July 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm Rubin better be pretty sure of himself in what he is going to say. As Minaya better also hope that what Jeff Wilpon told him is factual and based on concrete evidence. Not a picture he drew during the 6th inning of yesterday s game.

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Matthew Cerrone says it all comes down to this:
JohnPacellasCap says: July 27, 2009 at 6:17 pm If the point of going after Rubin was to spook the media from writing negative articles about how the organization was run, I think it is going to have, if anything, the exact opposite effect. If this is a battle, the media will long outlive Omar. That s why Omar s gratuitous comments about Rubin were ill-conceived. Even if true, it does nothing to make the organization look any better. That s why it s a disaster from a PR perspective. Omar stepped all over the story, which should have been that the organization was responsible in ridding itself of a highly ranked eomployee who nonetheless didn t conduct himself in a professional manner. Instead, the stories are now about Omar squaring off with a reporter.

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Hojo's Mojo also takes into account the following fact:
Jazz says: July 27, 2009 at 3:49 pm FINALLY! he got fired .damnn it took this long to get rid off this Ass*ole. I know Willy Randolph must be chuckling now..saying Karma is a bitch now Bearnard show know the meaning of Karma Reply

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However, Hojo's Mojo states that:
So please fire Omar next, then restaff your training & medical staff and lets win some friggin championships!!!!

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Still not being convinced, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) replies:
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Meanwhile, Hojo's Mojo came up with this idea:
blue & orange ny says: July 27, 2009 at 4:57 pm wwwoooooowwwwwww! he rebounded for a guy who has had a bad track record and start a girls fight with Rubin .this is insane .I ve backed this guy up for all this time, given him benefit of the doubt but damn this doesn t make him look good ..get him out of there Wilpons Reply

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In addition to this, JamesK states:
Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors.

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As a result of that, JamesK belives:
yes, i think thats pretty much ok i believe most people refer to that as networking. Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors. by kendynamo on Jul 28, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs I refer to that as sneaky but whatever.. by MetsGod on Jul 28, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs do you mind me asking what you do for a living? i cant think of any profession where stuff like this doesnt happen. Lets hope that when gut check time comes again the Mets will pass it with flying colors. by kendynamo on Jul 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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Furthermore, Matthew Cerrone claims:
deloid says: July 27, 2009 at 6:00 pm This is a serious problem with terrible timing. IF the Mets had any possibility of even a low level trade that has now vanished. What GM would waste his time exploring anything with the Mets now (considering this behavior and impending termination)? Omar is no longer trustworthy of making any changes at this time. I can t see any choice but to fire him immediately and try to bring in a known entity that other GMs might trust. Let s get a tough GM and enhance the scouting capabilities of the Mets now!

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In other words, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) puts it this way:
July 28, 2009 8:33:00 AM EDT kranepool society said... Dave, Count me in on the side of Adam Rubin. Omar came off as a total jerk yesterday and if the Wilpon s had a pair of balls betwen them there would be a press conference at Citi Field today annoucning Minaya s firing. Even if your take is true that Rubin asked about a job with the Mets which I don t believe I believe just what Adam said that we asked how does one go about getting a job in baseball, it doesn t take away that Omar had to know about all of Tony B d trangrstions and did nothing about them until someone leaked the info to Rubin.

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Matthew Cerrone brings more details:
64 Responses to Crazy: Minaya calls out Adam Rubin of Daily News Newer Comments » Patrick says: July 27, 2009 at 5:15 pm Rubin better be pretty sure of himself in what he is going to say. As Minaya better also hope that what Jeff Wilpon told him is factual and based on concrete evidence. Not a picture he drew during the 6th inning of yesterday s game.

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Still not being convinced, JamesK replies:
Also, I think you re take on this is influenced by your own bias against the MSM and their trumpeting of their code of ethics. IMO, whether or not the MSM generally adheres to their mythical code is irrelevant here because I don t think what Rubin did was unethical.

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Hojo's Mojo brings more details:
Omar fills the lineup with bloated contracts, then is forced to pick the scrap heap for other players. Some times it works, so someone calls him a genius. But mostly, its a horrible business plan.

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In addition to this, dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) states:
Even in Rubin's story from today's Daily News, he quotes Omar incorrectly, which is not proper journalism."Adam has lobbied for THE player development position," Minaya said.

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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) brings some great news:
Omar called him on it....he may have botched the message and the timing by doing it in the press conference, but it's something that needed to be told.

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Hojo's Mojo says it all comes down to this:
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Hojo's Mojo points out another thing aside from that:
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As a result of that, JamesK belives:
well done and superior to the rubbish produced by Bart Hubbuch at the New York Post. It is not Rubin's writing I'm calling into question here - it's his previous contact with Wilpon. Asking for pointers on how to break into the baseball business seems like questionable behavior at best and a minor breach of ethics at worst. Would it be appropriate for a New York Times reporter interviewing Barack Obama to ask for tips on how to enter the world of politics? How about a Wall Street Journal writer asking Warren Buffett how to start a successful financial services firm? No, of course not. Especially if the conversation is kept from the public and not documented in the published work. Such discussion could influence coverage of the subject (either positively or negatively) and give the impression to the public that treatment of the subject is biased.

Conrad Murray

Matthew Cerrone brings more details:
this just took a fascinating turn i have never heard of anything like this, which is about to make national attention, i would think, in terms of sports and media

Scott Roeder

dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) imagines that:
The reporters will all jump to Rubin's side--that's fine--they are banding together. But I'm actually on Omar's side here

Husalah Dead

JamesK brings some great news:
The Mets cannot point fingers at journalists who inquire about career choices. The Mets are the majority owners of SNY and one of their top rated shows is Daily News Live where Adam is a semi regular as is a dozen other Daily News journalists.

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Similarly, JamesK adds:
yeah it could create a little bias but i think it pales in comparison to all the other opportunity for bias to creep in when a beat reporter covers a team. reporters write favorable stories about players to stay on their good side so they ll give them good quotes. thats way worse, in my opinion, and it acknowledged to happen all the time. plenty of other things like that go one with beat writers, of all varieties.

Hurrican Gustav

Matthew Cerrone comes with a new idea:
2009_believe says: July 27, 2009 at 11:23 pm come on i hope some of the comments here are not people defending omar, that was a real low-blow and he will not survive it. You do not call out somebody in a public forum like that accusing them of lobbying for a job. The stories are obviously true and there have been quotes from guys that nobody likes Tony B that story about him yelling in front of the scout were confirmed and K-Rod confirmed that he had an altercation with Tony. Therefore Tony should have been fired (there is also the issue of nobody in the minors was developed enough to step in and fill any of these voids when players started getting hurt) and Adam confronted Omar who just looked stupid, even in his apology he looked stupid and he needed Jeff to stand there and make sure he did nothing else stupid. Omar needs to go and I believe that he finally might

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Meanwhile, Hojo's Mojo came up with this idea:
Dave says: July 27, 2009 at 4:19 pm I don t see the big commotion. A guy tries to pick a fight with a team. Fired right there and then. Done. Reply

Farrah S Story

Matthew Artus gives a bit of an idea about it:
They won 2 in a row. Now wouldn't it be nice if they can go for 3?One needs only to go back to the last time the Mets won more than 2 in a row this season to best describe their 2009 failures. At the end of play on May 29th, the Mets rested 1/2 game above the Phillies in first place and 7 games over .500 after logging a win over the Florida Marlins. Carlos Beltran batted third that night, despite struggling from an injury that would eventually sideline him indefinitely. Mike Pelfrey pitched sharp, but didn't log a win as the Mets would need 11 innings to beat the Marlins.

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Hojo's Mojo scans the other's answers and reply:
John says: July 27, 2009 at 4:29 pm Anyone else listen to the press conference?What a circus. Listening to Omar Minaya speak publicly gives me a headache. He is awful.

Kelli Mccarty

Matthew Cerrone brings some great news:
like Clark Griswold said, This is crazy, this is crazy, this is crazy. i can t believe omar called rubin out during this press conference i mean, this was supposed to be a day of clearing the air, turning the page from last week, building on two wins in Houston and looking forward instead, omar throws rubin under the bus and here we are at the cross section of Unique and Sensational, and as one fire goes out another is set

Chaseonline

dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) does not seem to agree with this. In his own words:
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JamesK imagines that:
by dontstopbelieving on Jul 28, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs I'll go along with the "blurred lines" thing as long as the high and mighty journalists who take part in it give their journalistic ethics and morals discussions a rest. See Robothal vs. Morris (the Ibanez thing). Murray Chass somewhat agrees with me. Not sure if that s a good sign or bad sign. by James Kannengieser on Jul 28, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Avuncular

Matthew Cerrone shows how it is done:
or, rubin did try to get a job in player development, tony b said no, an rubin intentionally got the ball rolling to take him out, and the minaya had every right to fight back

Idesitv

Still being unsure, Hojo's Mojo asks:
D.C. says: July 27, 2009 at 4:37 pm After this press conference that Minaya made a pariah of himself today. Reply

San Andreas Fault

JamesK considers that:
IMO, they didn t do this because what Rubin did really wasn t improper. And they knew it. Omar just pulled it out at the press conference to insinuate Rubin had an ulterior motive for writing what were embarrassing stories for him. He used it for character assassination.

Takiyah Wonder

Matthew Cerrone also takes into account the following fact:
ctmetsfan17 says: July 27, 2009 at 5:22 pm Regardless, there is No reason for Omar to bring it up. If he didn t everyone on WFAN and all of us on here would be talking about how the Mets did the right thing today. Instead we are still bashing them. Its just poor media management. If they were that mad at Rubin they could have leaked his job seeking to any other newspaper in NYC.

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Matthew Cerrone has another idea:
mark4212 says: July 27, 2009 at 10:17 am They won t even release mr GIDP tatis. I do agree they don t like to eat money on a healthy player. They will gladly sign a player to sit on the DL, but if he s healthy they don t want to cut him. Nate W. says: July 27, 2009 at 11:00 am Tough to argue for Tatis release when the other options are Argenis Reyes and Nick Evans methead says: July 27, 2009 at 11:32 am here here. Tatis has been terrible but if we had real options I could understand a release. Fact is Evans and reyes both suck.

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Hojo's Mojo thinks that the problem is:
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Furthermore, Matthew Artus claims:
If you're tired of the same banter from the NYC media headlines, check out the faux-headlines offered up by the folks at the Real Dirty Mets Blog . They're good for a laugh as you chronicle what went wrong this season.

Plumeria Flower

Matthew Cerrone shows how it is done:
Update, 5:20 pm: hey, omar, in case you forgot, your team is five games below .500 in late July , and you re trailing seven teams for the Wild Card

Wizard Of Oz

Hojo's Mojo brings some great news:
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Hojo's Mojo brings some great news:
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Hojo's Mojo tells the real story:
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Robert Mcnamara

As a result of that, Matthew Cerrone belives:
Agee's Catch says: July 27, 2009 at 6:25 pm Are we going to be decisive and fire him tomorrow afternoon, or are we going to string him along and fire him in a few weeks. I actually think Jerry survives. mark4212 says: July 27, 2009 at 7:48 pm Yes the hypocritical Jerry might actually survive this. He actually said the following about the offenses effectiveness over the weekend. When you get a consistent lineup, people start to click you start to score runs. Seriously how do you say that yet run out a different lineup every day from June until a the Franceour trade. jamie_ says: July 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm I cannot believe Jerry survives.

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Matthew Cerrone thinks about it:
MetFanForLife says: July 27, 2009 at 6:11 pm Enough is enough. I have been a supporter of Minaya since he was brought in when the Wilpons needed a baseball man, instead of a low level flunkee, to run baseball operations. However, it has become clear that Jeff had no intention of letting him run the team and is too cowardly to speak in public, thus undermining anything Omar says. If the Wilpons have lost faith in Omar, please have the guts to fire him and bring in real baseball people (e.g., Gerry Hunsicker and Bobby Valentine) to take charge of the team they own. Like someone once said to me: The Wilpons would never hire baseball people to run their real estate business. Why should they expect anyone other than qualified baseball people to run the Mets. All these votes of confidence look silly and I wish they could realize it. BTW, there s still 65 games left this year.

Van Wilder

Matthew Cerrone gives a bit of an idea about it:
Patrick says: July 27, 2009 at 6:29 pm his job is to handle the Mets public relations, in any case if you have really been paying attention the Mets have ALWAYS failed at this. Lorenzo23 says: July 27, 2009 at 6:42 pm What is your problem??? I have paid attention and I m aware that media relations has been horrible however, Jay could have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prevent Omar from saying something stupid. wlaadair says: July 27, 2009 at 7:41 pm Exactly, Jay Horowitz could have done nothing to prevent this, but unfortunately a lot of damage control from this may fall on his shoulders.

Skank Robbers

Matthew Cerrone gives a bit of an idea about it:
Patrick says: July 27, 2009 at 9:56 am Just wondering, who is Adams source on this, was it the disgruntled released 26 year old from Wantaugh or the former Blue Claws clubhouse manager?

Old School Riders

Matthew Cerrone is not really sure about that:
John Ricco, hide in the closet, man . no subtle movements Update, 4:30 pm: Rubin will an on-air guest of SNY in the next few minutes.

Robin Katz

Matthew Cerrone comes with the facts:
22 Responses to News: Redding Off the Chopping Block Newer Comments » stilltheEWM says: July 27, 2009 at 9:32 am How is Figgy not a better choice to pitch right now then Redding?

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Hojo's Mojo has another idea:
The NY Post and ESPN have already confirmed the news through their sources.The press conference can be viewed on SNY or heard on WFAN.

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Before going any further, Hojo's Mojo wants to get this straight:
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Matthew Artus points out another thing aside from that:
The Daily Citizen's Adam Krohn believes Jeff Francoeur should revisit his once-promising collegiate football career as baseball isn't working out . Francoeur, who played defensive back and wide receiver in high school, can't be doing much to impress the D-1 scouts with his ability to perform under the bright lights .

Diprivan

lalate shows how it is done:
âI thought Omar had a thick skin, obviously not. âThe bottom line is, too, they fired Tony Bernazard because he did the things I said he didâ¦ For them to change the story like this, personally it devastates me. This is my livelihood. Look, I have tremendous relationships with most of the people in uniform. I guarantee you if I walk in to the clubhouse right now Iâll have more pats on the back, unless people are just scared to do that because itâs their bosses. I could assure you they just made my job impossible to do in the short-term.â

Walter Cronkite

Matthew Artus gives a bit of an idea about it:
You may have heard the story about the Long Island Senior Softball League players that offered to help the Mets learn the fundamentals with a training video. The video's now available for consumption , but doesn't address how to cope with a corrupted front office.

Mimi Beardsley

Still being unsure, Matthew Cerrone asks:
Xavier22 says: July 27, 2009 at 9:53 am The Mets have shown they are willing to release players under contract who are not producing - Marlon Anderson was owed 1.5M at the start of the season. I think at this point, they need a mop up guy and Redding fits the bill as long as Livan is pitching relatively well. If Livan has a couple of bad starts, they ll move him to the pen, bring up Figuerroa and release Redding.

Danny Ferry

Matthew Artus thinks that the problem is:
According to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, the Texas Rangers recently expressed interest in Gary Sheffield despite his recent DL stint. If we get any players back, I'm all for it.

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Matthew Cerrone is not really sure about that:
wnymetsfan says: July 27, 2009 at 10:31 am In all fairness to Adam, Lugo never became a FA as the Sox traded him before that took place. He may have signed with the Mets but thankfully we never had to worry about it.

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Matthew Artus brings a word of caution:
I know that I'm stating the obvious here. I'm just writing because it still hurts, to see a season so promising become so fleeting so quickly because of a plague of injuries and the lack of foresight to prepare for them. That being said, it'd be nice to see the Mets log win #3 tonight against the Wild Card-leading Colorado Rockies.

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