But dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) has a different opinion:
July 28, 2009 8:35:00 AM EDT Dave Singer said... Steve, I have mixed opinions....as I stated yesterday, Rubin s reporting was spot on....and that should remain his focus. His piece this morning was absolutely slanted in his favor---he is equivocating on the fact that he made job inquiries, and he misquoted Omar vice using the actual words Omar said. Omar said Rubin inquired about a job....Rubin keeps saying Omar s comments were based on his belief that Rubin wanted Bernazard s job. Omar never said that though. Omar botched the press conference--true x 100. I also think Rubin is playing fast and loose with his interpretation of the truth.
JamesK intervenes and adds:
It's a bit unfair Objectivity is crucial to the health of journalism but calling Rubin s integrity into question over his tactful, general inquiries about a field is extreme, unrealistic, and unfair.
Before going any further, Matthew Artus wants to get this straight:
Second, the Mets rank 14th in Slugging Percentage at .419, which is also the current league average. You'd expect that with the lack of home runs, but it also reflects ranking 16th in doubles (83, 4 below league average) and 2nd in triples (15, 6 above league average). It's fine if the Mets aren't leading the league in dingers, but they're hardly a solid example of a well-rounded team.The BAPIP for the Mets normalized a bit, as it now resides at .304. That may or may not be affected by a dip in their line drive rate, down to 19.3% (which is still decent by MLB standards).
dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) is absolutely sure that:
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dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) shows how it is done:
Rubin s stories had been out for days and weeks. If Omar felt they were written by a reporter with a conflict of interest, he should have gone to the editors at the Daily News and complained. Instead, he uses a news conference to make unfounded accusations against Rubin. Omar will pay with his job. If not this year, I think by the end of next season. It s just one more mark against him. And it s a huge mark.
Despite the previous arguments, JamesK has many reasons to think otherwise:
This is a new world and the rules have been changed. There nothing wrong with a beat writer saying, So, how does somebody get a job in this place?
Having that in mind, JamesK wonders:
It s probably true that career-advice conversations like the Rubin-Wilpon exchanges are all too common in sports journalism and this is probably one reason why we re not seeing much surprise from the other sportswriters covering this story (apart from Wallace Matthews, who shockingly came out on the exact right side of this issue by remembering that Rubin s position is a bit dubious even while vilifying Omar). And if we take the Buffett comparison to heart, maybe it indicates not that Rubin is on firm ground but that business journalism is
Still not being convinced, JamesK replies:
If that "viewpoint" is true, then a lot of people are going to be investigated and fired. by MetsGod on Jul 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs Good Alot of them are terrible. by aparkermarshall on Jul 28, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JamesK scans the other's answers and reply:
It is completely possible to do this without sacrificing credibility as long as the entrepenuerial journalist does not exhibit his goals in his writing. Had Rubin done what Minaya implied and written articles about Bernazard with the intention of taking his job, that would have been wrong. That s not what happened, though.
Matthew Cerrone might have an idea about it:
The bottom line is, too, they fired Tony Bernazard because he did the things I said he did For them to change the story like this, personally it devastates me. This is my livelihood. Look, I have tremendous relationships with most of the people in uniform. I guarantee you if I walk in to the clubhouse right now I ll have more pats on the back, unless people are just scared to do that because it s their bosses. I could assure you they just made my job impossible to do in the short-term.
But Hojo's Mojo says that's not all:
Essentially what happened today was that Minaya set up a press conference to begin to save face for the organization, but in the process ripped that new face off by calling out Rubin.
Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
This is just the latest embarrassing development in a shameful season for the New York Metropolitans. To make matters worse, Omar Minaya got into it with Adam Rubin of
Matthew Cerrone intervenes and adds:
VCarver says: July 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm Any shred of respect I had left for Omar went out the window today. I don t care if Rubin had lobbied Omar for a job or not. This was not the venue to bring it up.
In addition to this, Matthew Cerrone states:
VCarver says: July 27, 2009 at 5:38 pm Any shred of respect I had left for Omar went out the window today. I don t care if Rubin had lobbied Omar for a job or not. This was not the venue to bring it up.
dave.singer@gmail.com (Dave Singer) intervenes and adds:
13 comments: Anonymous said... Rubin is really trying to have it both ways. He wants a job, he wants to say whatever he wants, and he wants everyone to look at him as the victim. He needs to take ownership of what he did and didn t say and do.
Still being unsure, noreply@blogger.com (Tony Arnoldine) asks:
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Matthew Cerrone thinks about it:
pcmetsfan07 says: July 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm Right, but there is no reason to publically kill Rubin. This should have been taken care of in private. Minaya is gone
Hojo's Mojo also takes into account the following fact:
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In contrast, Matth ew Cerrone replies:
In the end, Buster Olney of ESPN.com writes: He will not survive this, and this has nothing to do with whether what he said was accurate or inaccurate. He won t survive because Minaya now has become a public liability, a target of criticism, and if there is a defining characteristic of the Mets organization, it s a devotion to the whims of public opinion. Within seconds after Minaya s press conference ended, talk radio in New York erupted with criticism of the general manager for how he handled the situation. And that s just the quick response. This will only worsen in the hours and days ahead, as the blogs and columns of reaction are posted and the Mets fall out of contention.
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